Showing posts with label WorkTools. Show all posts
Showing posts with label WorkTools. Show all posts

Friday, March 21, 2008

WorkTools: "We Won the Judgement But it Did No Good" Part II

Yesterday, Mr Mike Marks, inventor and co-founder of WorkTools explained in Part I how is it possible that although they won at court in Taiwan it really did no good. In Part II below you will find a more detailed explanation by Mr Brad I Golstein, partner of WorkTools who manages their IP.

Mr Brad I Golstein wrote:
"In this particular instance in Taiwan, the case dragged on so long that the applicable law changed before it was decided, so the court threw out the case as being moot (irrelevant) in light of the changed law. It is the strong suspicion of many that Taiwan laws are designed more to protect home industry than to protect intellectual property rights. In general, the "proof" requirements are much greater and the penalties for infringement are much less than in the United States. What is often recommended to achieve success is that the foreign company have a Taiwanese partner who is the actual party to the lawsuit (such as the company that has the official rights to manufacture the product in Taiwan)--that makes it a case of Taiwan company vs Taiwan company rather than Taiwan company vs Foreign company. Larger Taiwan companies are probably more likely to respect IP rights, and less likely to simply close up the offending shop and just open anew down the street (although this is still possible)."

"Success" in stopping Asian knock-offs is a relative term--many times that means driving the infringer underground rather than being able to> eliminate them entirely. Many times it means getting major retailers to agree to not stock the offending product rather than actually stopping the manufacture of it. And while some degree of success> might be achieved in North America and Western Europe, it is much harder in less regulated parts of the globe, such as Africa, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, etc. Heck, even mega-corporations such as Disney, Levi's, Microsoft, etc. have their hands full and cannot stop all the infringers. "

"As a bit of an elaboration, the penalties for infringement in Taiwan in the matter we were pursuing before it was dismissed were quiteminor--something like putting a notice in the local paper and a fine of$4,000 (which the government would keep, it would not go to us tocompensate for our losses!)."
Brad I Golstein WorkTools, Inc.
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Thursday, March 20, 2008

WorkTools: "We Won the Judgement But it Did No Good" Part I

Yesterday I blogged about an interview on WorkTools' patent challenges in Taiwan and China, read here.

I was like Mr Stan Abrams of China Hearsay, who came up with some interesting suggestions here, very interested to know the real answer. So I asked Mr Mike Marks by email who came up with some very interesting and elaborate answers and is also referring the answer to his partner Brad Golstein, who manages WorkTools' IP for more detail:

1. How is it possible that although you won at court in Taiwan it really did no good whatsoever? Was it the enforcement of the judgement that did not work? Or did Taiwanese infringers continue under a different name?
2. Why don't you publish your Chinese and Taiwanese patents online?

Mr Mike Marks' answer:
"My recollection is that we won our case in Taiwan but the penalty was so minor that it was meaningless. We should publish ALL of our patents online, both US and International, including Taiwan and China. Thanks for the push. I have some updating to do on the website!"

"On another note, one thing we've seen from Taiwan and China are companies that pursue and receive patents on top of our patents. Example: Company-1 has a patent on a pneumatic tire. Company-2 gets a patent on a pneumatic tire that's filled with a mixture of 1/3 helium and 2/3 nitrogen. Company-2 can't use its patent without violating the patent of Company-1, but Company-2 can claim "patented". Company-2 presents its claim to retailers to make them feel comfortable buying Company-2's tire. Now Company 1 must educate retailers that Company-2 is selling a patent-infringing pneumatic tire, that the patented "improvement" does not give Company-2 any meaningful rights. In short: Company-1 can prevent Company-2 from making and selling ANY pneumatic tire. Company-2 can prevent Company-1 from making a version of pmeumatic tire."

Mike Marks
http://worktools.com/
http://inventioncity.com/

See Part II where Mr Brad Golstein, who manages WorkTools' IP, gives a more detailed explanation here.
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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

WorkTools Inventor's Experience With Taiwanese and Chinese Patents

Mr John Eastman of Black and White interviewed Mr Mike Marks, inventor and co-founder of WorkTools about patent infringements. WorkTools specializes in the development and licensing of patented mechanical products for consumers. The company invents products and enhances products brought to it by others.

According to Mr Marks American companies in general try to work around patent claims,
"[w]hereas companies in Asia, whether by request from a foreign company or on their own, have on occasion knocked us off very explicitly, imitating our tool to a tee."

"I don’t think that a lot of companies even bothered looking at the patent at all, they just saw the product and said oh, this is an item that is being sold and we’re going to just copy it explicitly. Maybe they were unaware of intellectual property laws. I don’t think companies are quite that bad about it today, but 10 or 12 years ago that was definitely the case.
Even though we have enforceable Taiwanese and Chinese patents issued, we have had no success in stopping any Asian companies. We even won at court in Taiwan, and it really did no good whatsoever. Perhaps it would be a little different for us if we were a Taiwanese company."

Read Mr Eastman's interview here

WorkTools is showing their US issued patents on their website, and inform that they can be
contracted to evaluate international and pending patents, see here. That is probably a good decision, transparent and can function as a deterrent. It is also good that you can see that Mr Paul Y. Feng is their outside patent council, partner of Fulwider Patton, which can have an deterrent effect.
The question is, however, why WorkTools doesn't put its Chinese and Taiwanese patents online? Mr Marks said that a lot of companies don't even bother to read patents, but I don't understand why he at least put WorkTools' Chinese and Taiwanese patents online. One can argue whether it works as a deterrent, but at least it would not harm them.

UPDATE:
Mr Mike Marks gives the answer to the question why it does not help to have won a judgement in Taiwan here.
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